Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:41:56 -0500 (EST)
From: The Man in Black
Subject: DG: Re: More EH nonsense

On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Christopher D. Nichols, Flatulent-American, wrote:
> I generally prefer Chris "Lard Ass" Nichols, but I can live with
> whatever you prefer to call me. 8)
You can be Agent LARD of L-cell, American Secret Service.

> BTW, Daniel Harms (aka "That Hack") doesn't count Regnum Congo as a
> Mythos tome.
Screw him. Just for that, a sacrificial lamb named Danny Hurtz gets killed and eaten by the Slaughterhouse crew, just for bein' a Jew

Oh wait... isn't he on this list? I'm sorry Danny-boy. That was most insensitive of me. I apologise most sincerely. You know what? I promise you, and you can trust me when I say this; that I will NEVER, *ever*, say anything bad about about you or your deranged scribblings EVER... again.

Thank YEEUW~! I am your Champion! MiB-4, Goldberg-0, zilch, nada, zipperoo!

> > Location: New York City

> Adepts. And lots of them. The agents should be constantly running into
> losers and weirdos, who happen to be Adepts, purely by chance.
> Hastur related mayhem, stealing from Shane Ivey's "lesserdark." Cameo
> by The King in Yellow (the book).
> Introduce Agent Qualls? (include her in Chaps. 4 and 5?)
Hmmm. I like it, but you meant Agent NANCY. Now I have to shewt you.

> > Pawns: Sword of Allah? Jihad for the Eradication of Zion?

> With the pawns mentioned, we gotta include some Kaballism.
I'm now leaning toward putting the Rag-Heads (TM) in NYC, allowing plagiarism of stuff from the major motion picture "The SIEGE" combined with plagiarism from the indie film "PI." O- 3.14159 -O

Did I type plagiarism? I meant homage and inspiration, really... :)

> Finally, I was thinking that each chapter should have at least two other
> Mythos texts that are peripherial to the scenario, but can be picked up
> by the various factions. Might be over-kill though.
Yeah, Emerald Hammer is ripe for Tome Inflation, which should be kept to a minimum.

> It's the uber-Delta Green campaign!
Sieg-Heil!





Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:41:56 -0500 (EST)
From: The Man in Black
Subject: Re: DG: Just a few disjointed ramblings...

On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Delta Green wrote:
> Lastly, I was rereading the DG book, like I do about every other day or
> so, and I'm slowly trying to come up with a crossover game between DG
> and Mage. I'm thinking two groups of players, one DG agents and
> friendlies, and the other newly-awakened tradition mages, who are being
> courted by the Fate to join the Network.


Remember, the Fate has three levels of authority; Alzis, then Network, then Lords and Adepts. Start the Mages encountering Adepts, then becoming Adepts, then becoming Lords as their Arete gets above three. Their early experiences as Adepts is good training for coincidental magic, and their dark duties as Lords call for the more vulgar proceedures.

My take on the Network is that they are exactly that, a Network for All the major cult leaders. Each Network member has their own cult of followers outside of the Fate, which functions as a social club and a "Cult of Cults."

Something else to consider: have two technocracy types working against your mages, one running the DG cell and one running the Majestic NRO Speedwagon team, which watches the DG cell and unwittingly serves as Their backup.

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From: "Christopher D. Nichols"
Subject: DG: Blah! Blah-blah EH Blah. Blah?
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 16:55:45 PST

On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, The Man in Black decided to make me look like an idiot, and wrote:

> > Introduce Agent Qualls? (include her in Chaps. 4 and 5?)

> Hmmm. I like it, but you meant Agent NANCY. Now I have to shewt you.
Agent NANCY. Jean Qualls. Debra Constance. Whatever. You know what I mean. The ghoul chick.

> I'm now leaning toward putting the Rag-Heads (TM) in NYC, allowing
> plagerism of stuff from the major motion picture "The SIEGE" combined with
> plagerism from the indie film "PI."

Note To Self: Sell blood for money. Go see these films, figure out what he's talking about.

> Did I type plagerism? I meant homage and inspiration, really... :)

Note: This does not work on college professors.

> > Maybe a side-trip to the Chernobyl wastes?
> I was hoping to save the radiation haunted lands for the sequel to
> my Russkie adventure
> "Maskirovka" which takes place at the Baikonur Cosmodrome. But if it's > not gratuitously done (ie. Godzilla 1998) Chernobyl is a great location.
That's fine by me. I was just tossing out ideas, seeing what would float. In this case, Chernobyl is pretty much gratuitous. We'll skip the gratuitous Godzilla slam, and move right along...

> > For the Dreamlands segment, the Underworld is the obvious choice.

> I don't even own a copy of Dreamlands, and kind of want to explore regions and concepts in a
> more Sandmanesque/Neil Gaiman way. Only violent andnasty. Maybe showing how
> Nyarlathotep influences the Dreamlands and has gradually turned them into an engine of Mass
> Psychosis.

Oh, you wanted something original. I only mentioned the Underworld
because that's your big ghoul basis in the Dreamlands. So instead of that, more Gaimanesque? Hmm... And Nyarlathotep has corrupted the appealing (buopoths and other cuteness, pleasant fantasy kingdoms) aspects of some of the Dreamlands into oppressive (fantasy kingdoms under Vlad Tepes, uncute monsters) elements. Nice.

> The Dreamlands is a lot less lethal, and so I want to play up how healing
> magic makes mutilation and death an everyday thing. Sort of a rip on
> Hack-n-Slash AD&D. This violence and violation extends into Sorcery
> as well with powerful dreamers carving up the Dreamlands into personal
> universes, greedily pulling apart the fabric of human wonder like so much
> metaphysical taffy.
> The petty Gods of Earth would split up into chaos. Some would try to get
> their own slice of the Dreaming, others would try to stop the destruction of
> their realm, and others would become pawns of powerful Sorcerers and
> Dreamers. Many powerful magic artifacts would be critical to these
> various schemes. I'm ripping on Monty-Haul games with this theme. Hypnos
> would be curiously absent lo these many strange aeons, and his oft
> prophesied return strikes fear into everyone. The major point here is that I
> want to update the Dreamlands for the Endtimes and destroy any aberrant
> good-vibes resonance giving hope to ignorant suckers that think humanity
> might not be doomed after all.

Nice... I'll look at Complete Dreamlands 4.0 later tonight and see if I can hammer together a list of suggested changes. So much for the Oneiros Option.

> > Since we're dealing with the Book of Eibon, maybe something Tsathoggua
> > related?
> Yeah, but what, other than a phallic black obelisk? I'm thinking
> Tsathoggua and Hypnos might work together to move the Dreamlands into
> an existence independant of humanity. The double summoning of Tsathoggua
> and Hypnos would be the climax of the Dreamlands sequence in Chapter FIVE.
> Or maybe Tsathoggua in Four, Mordiggian in Five and Hypnos in a future
> campaign. The Triple Threat: Tsathoggua, Mordiggian and Hypnos!
Random idea: Formless spawns hiding out in a Russian toxic-waste dump?

I'd opt for the T4, M5, Hlater path. The whole Hypnos/Dreamlands deal is big enough for its own campaign.

OK, got to go. I'll finish the rest of my incoherent ramblings later
tonight.



Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:43:36 -0500 (EST)
From: The Man in Black
Subject: Re: DG: Emerald Hammer Symposium

On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 CroakerJr@aol.com wrote:
> On my list, Mexico is Ch. 10, not Ch. 9.
You know what, you're right.

> Also, I'm pondering taking on Ch. 2 as well, since there seem to be a couple
> of obvious tie-ins between NYC and Mexico: Alzis getting salted and then
> unsalted; the Turner Codex in NYC followed by (maybe) the Hastur Connection in
> Mexico; and I have plans (tm) for the Yithians that could use a good NYC tie-
> in. Plus Nichols was talking about stealing from my story for the NYC
> chapter, and nobody can steal from me as good as I can. ;-)

This would make exactly twelve authors plus me. What a lucky number!

Right now we're still heavy into discussion mode. Everyone should write what you can and if you can't finish, then I'll work something out.



From: "David Farnell"
Subject: DG: RE: More EH Nonsense (and other stuff)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 01:54:08 +0900

> > Three words: tentacle hentai cult. Having somehow gotten ahold of
> > Alexander Solonitsyn's magic camera, they improved it and have been
> > using it to film live action tentacle porn, which the camera
> > automatically changes to anime. The Skoptsis want the camera back.
> > Eunauchs vs. Perverts - FIGHT!
See my earlier post, "Japanese Mythos Book," for an example, with details and a race of "sex demons." Rip it to shreds and incorporate the quivering bits you like.

> > The R'lyehians have corrupted part of the Japanese gov. A reborn Unit
> > 731 is turning Japanese citizens into hybrid Manchurian candidates,
> > dreaming of a new empire under Cthulhu.

> Ties in nicely with Timmins' Endtimes.
Kick ass!

> > Doesn't someone on the list live in Japan (Jay, I think?). Get him to
> > help.

> Jay Noyes, David Farnell, Phil Ward, the list of gaijin goes on and on.
I'll jump in now and then, but the next month'll be tight. Actually, I'm aching to do a Japanese chapter (was there one?), but, well, just can't commit to one more thing now. Later, with the new year, maybe. (I know, I suck.)
> > Maybe the Amn sarin gas cult?

> That would be Aum Baka Kusai or something. inside joke for Nipponese
:)

Chotto tanoshikata :-)

> > The Bloated Woman Cult and the Plateau of Leng. Maybe Joseph almost
> > slept with the Bloated Woman?

> Enough Tentacle Sex already! Uncle Joe did not have an inappropriate
> relationship with an Outer God!
Hmm, making me want to revisit Yuki Onna (OK, enough plugging my own stuff).

> Alzis cuts a deal with the Yithians.
> I'm thinking that the Manuscripts are stolen by Monty-Haul Hack-n-slashers
> in the dreamlands who exit via Carcosa into Mexico City.
I was going to turn Samson, California, into Carcosa. But Mexico City is way cooler. Better yet, howzabout a Carcosa Virus, spreading from city to city? The most decadent, hopeless, artsy parts shift into Carcosa, which slowly spreads its influence through the whole city, taking it over. Shades of KULT again, I know, I know, with the Metropolis theme.

> WOO-HOO! Crossover with all our Vampire Games!
(Quote out of context, but hey, it adds to the grinder.) Carcosa swallows up all the Goth Chicks (TM) and Toreadors, adding them to the cast of its eternal theater.

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